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Podcast: The Leisuremen: Pabst and Perloff

Network: NBC Sports

What Is It?: Not to be confused with their radio show of the same name, it’s a weekly podcast hosted by two of the Dan Patrick Show’s “Danettes.” It’s as much a guy culture show as it is a sports talk show.

Who’s The Host?: If you watch/listen to the Dan Patrick Show, you’ll recognize Paul “Paulie” Pabst and Andrew “McLovin” Perloff from there. They have a fantastic rapport from spending years working together in the Milford Man Cave.

What’s a Normal Episode Like?: There have only been nine episodes of the podcast, so the show is still evolving.

The hosts go over issues of the week, both in sports and in their own lives. For example, they talked about dad problems last week and have spent plenty of time discussing beer. Each episode only lasts around 30-40 minutes, so they never spend an inordinate amount of time on any one topic.

Even though the show is distributed under the NBC Sports banner, only one guest has been an NBC personality: NFL Draft expert Josh Norris. In March, they had @OldTakesExposed and former Xavier big man Matt Stainbrook on the show, to name two guests. Their first episode featured La La Land producer Mike Jackson. Even if you don’t have much interest in all of these guests, there has to be at least one here you’ll want to listen to.

Who Is It For?: It’s for sports fans who don’t take life too seriously. They won’t get into DVOA or the minutiae of NBA two-minute reports. But they will talk about how star draft picks will be overpublicized, how to grill a good burger, and craft beer. Note to readers: the proper way to listen to The Leisuremen is while throwing back a cold one.

Who Is It Not For?: With two hosts who work on a national sports talk show for their main jobs, the podcast definitely comes across like sports talk radio. It could also have something to do with Pabst and Perloff hosting The Leisuremen radio show for three hours on Sunday evenings. This show is not a long-form interview, it’s not an extremely deep conversation about one sport, and it’s not a show based around storytelling.

Can I Jump Right In?: Most of the time, yes. Obviously, a show released on Wednesday that discusses the NFL draft won’t have a lengthy shelf life. That was a recurring topic over the last few weeks, so I suggest you start with next week’s episode. If you don’t have time to listen to it until the weekend, you should still be okay.

What’s Not Great?: Pabst and Perloff are sports talk veterans, so my only issue with the show is one I have with sports talk as a whole. It’s a show by men and for men. While I don’t think The Leisuremen is any more sexist than other sports talk shows, the title kind of boxes it in. Not to mention, complaining about your daughter’s friends’ moms on the show won’t win you a female listenership. By no means will it stop me from tuning in, but it is something about the show that isn’t great.

So, Should I Listen To This?: If you have a similar outlook on life, The Leisuremen is a good show to listen to while sitting on the deck in your backyard. It’s perfect for people who grill out on Sundays and don’t want their sports “ruined” because analytics have replaced the eye test. I highly recommend it to people who want a calmer sports podcast to listen to in an era of Screamin’ A and Sweaty Skip.

If people want to be taught by a sports podcast, they can find sport-specific shows. For 40 minutes, once a week, we should all take a break from the anger and intensity around us. If you want more, there’s always the weekly radio show, but the podcast lets you commit to a mid-week appetizer.

Bottom Line – TL;DR: If you don’t want to think too hard while listening to a sports podcast, then The Leisuremen is perfect for you.

About Alex Kaufman

Alex Kaufman is a 2017 graduate of Denison University. He has been published on ESPN.com, profiled by SI.com, and writes for many different outlets including Awful Announcing, The AP Party, The Denisonian, and It's Pronounced Lajaway. As a broadcaster, Alex has spent time working for 91.1 FM WDUB, the Denison Sports Network, Fan Media Network, and ABC6/FOX28.

  • YouAreWrongAndDumb

    These two personality-less non entities are good for one thing, knowing what the conventional wisdom is currently for bland, boring white guys. This is a podcast for people looking for something after listening to Mike and Mike.

  • BetweenTheBuriedAndMeatloaf

    No

  • sportsfan365

    These guys come across as shallow, i.e., they know a little about lots of things. That usually isn’t enough to make a podcast worthy of my time.

  • Peter Moen

    I understand exactly the POV of The Leisuremen and I like it. The other commenters seem to be keeping up appearances with either backhanded compliments or flat out rejections of a show that is apparently beneath them. They are what the “Common Man” Dan Cole on KFAN 100.3 out of the Twin Cities rails against in his epic rant found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9j5RwQSFQI. The Common Man is the forerunner to all the leisuremen out there and has perfected it.

  • MrBull

    They are ‘Danettes’…the bar is set very, very low…if one is expecting something great – dream on!…